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#1 ? Britney's Piers?

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Posted Today, 12:53 PM

http://www.telegraph...ic-decline.html

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The five, who are all 40 or younger and entered Parliament at the last election, are publishing a new book in which they say that "lazy" Brits prefer a lie-in to hard work.
Due to be published on the eve of the Conservative Party election, the book, called Britannia Unchained ? Global Growth and Prosperity, also criticises the "baby boomer" generation for seeking to raise taxes for young workers to pay for their lavish pension pots.

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#2 ? corevalue?

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Posted Today, 01:06 PM

What "lavish" pension pot. The mean the state pension, one of the lowest in Europe? FFS, workers in Malaysia work the same hours as us, and have about twice as many bank holidays. Oh, wait a minute, they must be talking about themselves. Have any of them done productive work in their short, pampered little lives?

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#3 ? Lewis Gordon Pugh?

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Posted Today, 01:20 PM

****** them and ****** their 'book'

#4 ? porca mis?ria?

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Posted Today, 01:30 PM

Bit of spin there.

You make two points. One: Lazy brits to blame. Two: taxes on workers paying for over-generous pensions.

The headline conflates the two to present a misleading conclusion which is not at all implied by the two points.

FWIW, both the points are misplaced. It's not so much lazy Brits themselves as the system that pushes them to laziness that's to blame. And the lavish pensions are rapidly converging with the basic state pension at age 67 or 68 for all but a lucky few.

[edit: add pension age]

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#5 ? EUBanana?

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Posted Today, 01:38 PM

Too many parasites slurping hungrily at the national jugular, yup, but not in the sense that those muppets think. Those muppets are the parasites, in a big way.

#6 ? Si1?

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Posted Today, 01:44 PM

I wouldn't call boomers lazy, just peculiarly self indulgent and inefficient

#7 ? stormymonday_2011?

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Posted Today, 01:45 PM

View Post corevalue, on 18 August 2012 - 01:06 PM, said:

Chris Skidmore - Professional politician. never done a proper job

http://en.wikipedia..../Chris_Skidmore

Elizabeth Truss - Turncoat from Labour family. Flirted with Liberal Democrats before selling out her class to the Tories. Worked in ' Sales' before becoming a professional politician

http://en.wikipedia....Elizabeth_Truss

Dominic Raab - Oxbridge Educated lawyer with posh firm Linklaters. Given a very safe Tory seat. Destined to become typical House of Commons Lobby fodder living off the taxpayer for decades while holding down a nice legal job on the side.

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Dominic_Raab

Priti Patel - Professional politician, Never Done a proper job

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Priti_Patel

Kwasi Kwarteng - worked in 'financial services the industry that helped blow the debt bubble and has just had to be bailed out by the lazy good for nothing British workers to the tune of billions of pounds.

http://en.wikipedia..../Kwasi_Kwarteng

Usual bunch of c*nts who have no idea what it is like to face doing a boring and arduous job for 40 years with little prospect of escape. .

In fact this book is little more than an electoral suicide note as the first rule of politics is to not slag off the voters

BTW as an IT worker I regularly work alongside Indian and other foreign workers. In my experience they are just a keen on skiving off for a fag break as their British counterparts.

This post has been edited by stormymonday_2011: Today, 01:58 PM

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#8 ? gf3?

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Posted Today, 01:55 PM

Here's an Idea I've been playing with and I am going to be shoot on here for saying it.

Imagine tomorrow everybody?s tax went up by ?100 a month.

My view is that all rents would have to come down by the same amount and house prices would have to fall because people haven't got the money any more.

The plebs having less money would hit the rich harder than the plebs.

Again if tax was cut by ?100 rents would go up and so would houses and swallow all the gains.

#9 ? Bob Loblaw?

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Posted Today, 01:57 PM

View Post stormymonday_2011, on 18 August 2012 - 01:45 PM, said:

Chris Skidmore - Professional politician. never done a proper job

http://en.wikipedia..../Chris_Skidmore

Elizabeth Truss - Turncoat from Labour family. Flirted with Liberal Democrats before selling out her class to the Tories. Worked in ' Sales' before becoming a professional politician

http://en.wikipedia....Elizabeth_Truss

Dominic Raab - Oxbridge Educated lawyer with Lawyer with posh firm Linklaters. Typical Torry Lobby fodder

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Dominic_Raab

Priti Patel - Professional politician, Never Done a proper job

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Priti_Patel

http://en.wikipedia..../Kwasi_Kwarteng

Usual bunch of c*nts who have no idea what it is like to face doing a boring and arduous job for 40 years with little prospect of escape. .

In fact this book is little more than an electoral suicide note as the first rule of politics is to not slag off the voters

BTW as an IT worker I regularly work alongside Indian and other foreign workers. In my experience they are just a keen on skiving off for a fag break as their British counterparts.

I can second that, except I don't smoke so put in far more time relative to my smoking colleagues. I also see a lot of foreign workers work long, long hours but their productivity is very low. Seems to be an attitude that as long as you are seen to be working long hours then your productivity can not be questioned.

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#10 ? Socially Housed?

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Posted Today, 01:59 PM

Strong rope and lamposts springing to mind.

#11 ? erranta?

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Posted Today, 02:08 PM

View Post stormymonday_2011, on 18 August 2012 - 01:45 PM, said:

Chris Skidmore - Professional politician. never done a proper job

http://en.wikipedia..../Chris_Skidmore

Elizabeth Truss - Turncoat from Labour family. Flirted with Liberal Democrats before selling out her class to the Tories. Worked in ' Sales' before becoming a professional politician

http://en.wikipedia....Elizabeth_Truss

Dominic Raab - Oxbridge Educated lawyer with Lawyer with posh firm Linklaters. Typical Torry Lobby fodder

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Dominic_Raab

Priti Patel - Professional politician, Never Done a proper job

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Priti_Patel

http://en.wikipedia..../Kwasi_Kwarteng

Usual bunch of c*nts who have no idea what it is like to face doing a boring and arduous job for 40 years with little prospect of escape. .

In fact this book is little more than an electoral suicide note as the first rule of politics is to not slag off the voters

BTW as an IT worker I regularly work alongside Indian and other foreign workers. In my experience they are just a keen on skiving off for a fag break as their British counterparts.

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#12 ? Daveky?

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Posted Today, 02:18 PM

Walk down any high street during the day and see plenty of loafers wandering aimlessly around or buying crap. You just know they're all on benefits, hell most of the population are on benefits of some form. Single mums are the most prevalent, lazy scrotes spit out a couple of useless little turds and expect to get paid for the next 20 years. The wrong people are being encouraged to breed and that's why this country will continue to go down the toilet.

#13 ? Socially Housed?

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Posted Today, 02:23 PM

View Post Daveky, on 18 August 2012 - 02:18 PM, said:

There are also a lot of people sitting on chairs, whinging in internet forums about other "idle" people!

Go and create some jobs for them then. Not exactly hearing factory owners crying out for workers, struggling to fill jobs.

Round these parts if you are unskilled/semi skilled its all part time, zero contract working tax credit stuff. No proper jobs at all.

I'm wondering how many more hand car wash places, this town can take!

If you are going to outsource all the work to China, and import cheaper labour, don't moan when there are loads of idle scroats around. They can't all be budding entrepreneurs like you!

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#14 ? thecrashingisles?

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?Socially Housed, on 18 August 2012 - 02:23 PM, said:

Well go and create some jobs for them then. Not exactly hearing factory owners crying out for workers, struggling to fill jobs.

Round these parts if you are unskilled/semi skilled its all part time, zero contract working tax credit stuff. No proper jobs at all.

I'm wondering how many more hand car wash places, this town can take!

If you are going to outsource all the work to China, and pay tax in Luxemberg, don't moan when there are loads of idle scroats around. They can't all be budding entrepreneurs like you!

That's only possible when the system and inflated cost of living doesn't price them out of work. It might be possible to create jobs that would pay them ?4 an hour for example but they wouldn't accept it even if they could.

Caught in your bad finance

#15 ? Si1?

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Posted Today, 02:32 PM

View Post Bob Loblaw, on 18 August 2012 - 01:57 PM, said:

Seems to be an attitude that as long as you are seen to be working long hours then your productivity can not be questioned.

that's a kind of british disease and all comes down to control-freakery

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